Comments on: TAAKE vs KREATOR

By: Blodoffer

Blodoffer — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:36:22 +0000

UGH!!!

Germans have forgotten their biggest pride in all time.

Synes det er veldig feil å hindre dere i å spille der. Hadde tenkt å dra nedover, hovedsaklig med Taake som mål. Det skjer ikke no.

At noen tyskere skal hindre nordmenn i å oppleve norsk musikk, er feil. Mennesker er for svake, og slår seg til den sterkeste. (eller hvertfall den som har størst saueflokk etter seg).

Kreator skulle vært kastet på sjøen!

By: Skygge

Skygge — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:09:35 +0000

SHIT!!!!! So no Karmøy for me… I wanted to check the Karma tatoo link on this page and I find the new…

But I’ll see you with Slavia thursday and at the Dark Essence, and maybe in Oslo.

By: Johnny Angelund(Karmøygeddon)

Johnny Angelund(Karmøygeddon) — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:46:02 +0000

Hei Blodoffer.
Forstår din frustrasjon her meget godt.
At mennesker er for svake og slår seg til den sterkeste rett kan vel diskuteres,men desverre så var det en masse faktorer som gjorde dette til slutt,og vi prøvde å få til en løsning,men desverre gikk ikke dette.

De avgjørelsene vi da måtte ta var vanskelige,men resultatet vist vi ikke hadde gjort dette hadde blitt fatale for oss.

Forventer ikke at alle skal være enig med oss på dette,men håper allikevel på litt forståelse for dette når man står ovenfor ett budsjett på 450.000 kr som skal komme i balanse.

Mvh.
Johnny Angelund

By: panzerassault

panzerassault — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:37:17 +0000

that’s total bullshit. i can’t beleive Kreator would do that. hitler is the only reason why germany is still even a country. and Hoest stated it perfectly that black metal should never become harmless.

By: Harald

Harald — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:39:04 +0000

Dette blir for dumt!
Så virkelig fram til gigen deres i hjembyen min, hvordan jeg skal reagere nå er jeg litt usikker på, men markering blir det! Først blir festivalledelsen teppebombet med mailer…
Taake live (og Ragnarok) er alltid en høydare live, vi ses og høres ved neste batalje.
Forbannet!!

By: Vinterblot

Vinterblot — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:03:10 +0000

Knurrr… Vel vel, godt at e ikkje kjøpte billett.

By: unimportant

unimportant — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:24:35 +0000

Arg. Jeg er tysk selv og jeg synes det er bare irriterende og hinsides all fornuft hva som blir sagt og mast om Taake der for tiden. Det var nå tredje gang jeg hadde lyst til å dra til en konsert pga Taake og selve konserten ble avlyst uten skikkelig begrunnelse. Hvem faen tror Kreator at de er, egentlig?

By: Messiah

Messiah — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:51:25 +0000

Argh… hits it…
I am proud to be German, but may this Swastika action was not the best at all… BUT anyway… Maybe it was alright, to keep Taake off from the Ragnarök Festival in March 2007… but now we’ve got 2008… And the organisators from Karmoygeddon have made the worst decision ever. It’s just as you mentioned… The people, who are disadvantaged, are the fans, such as ME. And I could explode, while i hope to see Taake live… an get embarassed everytime… An action, which found its way ONCE, and this a long time ago… Shuuld not kill a live entertainment of one of the earth’s best bands like Taake actually is. They better shall read you lyrics and get, that there is NOTHING to handle with Nazithings or whatever…

Thanks for Taake!

By: isar_rune

isar_rune — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:29:24 +0000

Heil dir,

I read the article against the shit antifa band kreator and I am agree with your position. The things I didn’t like - what is the connection between the “murder, torture, rape, necrophilia and suicide” as you say you sing in your songs and Nationalsozialism? As you use also the shamed and fake word “nazi”, but no matter for this. The real thing that shocked me was that the Aryan symbol - the Swastika, you say that it is a symbol of hate??
Are you crazy guys??? Or you are the same “hollywood” stars that puts a swastika on their face for being interesting and making show business? You have no right to write such shits about the symbol of our forefathers. I really do not care about what you sing and what is your political views, but talkings like yours just support the anti-menschen ZOG machine. Fuck Jew $ A, fuck Donalds and fuck KFC! Fuck multi-culti and fuck jew york! Do not make their business!

We are Aryans and we have to be proud of our culture and symbols! Long fly the SWASTIKA in our hearts!

Isar von paganblut

P.S. When it is about music it shall be just for the music. I like your works, but talking bullshits about the past, the one that was and for the ones who were, is total shit and I don’t like it. Keep up with your good work.

By: Eismalslott

Eismalslott — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:21:23 +0000

May Karmøygeddon go to hell. I think they shoot themselves in their own leg, these cowardly bastards!!!!

Karmøygeddon = FIIIIIITTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEE

By: apostel

apostel — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:11:03 +0000

that guy… “isar_rune” has to be ironic. no way a guy who at least can spell english is that stupid. but hey, we all love our “aryan” symbols, don’t we? especially the foreign ones…

By: casta

casta — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:18:05 +0000

it has to be irony. i can’t believe, there’s anyone, who really stand behind such beliefs.

and about the comment hoest made, sorry, can’t understand it.
you wanted some provocation, you made it, so stand up to it.
if you provoke someone you have to anticipate a reaction. sorry, that’s how life is. so if you, don’t care about all that, stop whining about it. that’s just really lame. period.

and also, i don’t think an openminded german whit at least a little common sense has do be reminded by YOU about their countries past.
who do you think you are?
that is by far the cheapest excuse, to talk bullshit, that i’ve heard for a long time.

By: NATASLIAH

NATASLIAH — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 04:06:27 +0000

Fuckin sad.
I can’t see how or why kreator have such power over a festival held in Norway !
If they can’t accept their own history they should fuck off and kill them selves.
Perhaps they are jews or their fathers were in the SS.
Anyhow if this happend in my country I would campaign to have everybody leave the festival when kreator get on stage, let them play to an empty venue.
Those guys are so old they may not live long enofgh to play the gig

I seem to rember a song by them called “flag of Hate”
time to raise the flag of hate bla bla bla…..
the Swastika is a flag of hate
and Black Metal is no stranger to hate
so wheres the fuckin problem.????

So now it looks like the germans have control over Karmoygeddon.
you have been invaded ……again

HAILSATAN
NATASLIAH

By: kadaver

kadaver — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:29:02 +0000

Kreator sucks!!!

By: Angrboda

Angrboda — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:56:21 +0000

Hei,
I’m so sorry for you and TAAKE. I think is it not the right way! Sometime a mistake must be forgotten. I hope the Gig’s with RAGNAROK take place in Germany also really!

By: The blood usurper

The blood usurper — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:01:53 +0000

That really doesn’t surprise me coming from the country that banned conversation of the holocost, just keep denying your past and maybe one day you’ll convince yourself it never happened. Black metal is hatred in all of its forms, whether that by misanthropy satanism or racism, get over it. I don’t consider myself to be a racist but I found the Essen scandel funny and I woulod have done the same thing if not to just piss off the germans, how can you live in Germany and not at least be able to admit that it happened. I’m from America and i can at least admit that were the most fucked up corrupt country and our government is crap, but hey at least I can admit it.

By: Diana

Diana — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:02:22 +0000

To those who will go to the fest,as I will not be able to…(And better so!)Please, can you castrate those fucking wankers of Kreator,for insulting the glorious land of Norge with their pussy little whining!!!!How dare a norwegian festival get blackmailed by germans just because they have the money to do so,and probably think it is a great publicity wank(uh yea,let me sell more albums with this little loser stint!!)Nordmenn, DON’T LET IT HAPPEN!!!!!Please, DO something to damage Kreator!!You are being insulted!!Do it for all those who got fucked in the ticket deal,and those who would cut our veins for Taakes music who unfortunately are too far away to assist!!!Faen!!Kreator wishes they had an ounce of Taake’s talent!!Shall they rot in hell,they will pay,what a bleeding hemorrhoid induced crap!!Hope someone puts a bomb on the stage when they play… Hate has a new meaning…

By: winterwolf

winterwolf — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:13:58 +0000

@blood usuper:

What the fuck are you talking about???the germans are denying the holocaust?well, i am german, and i can tell you, you cannot visit a school in germany, read newspapers or watch tv without being confrontated with this topic..
and just by the way..germany has (of course for good reasons) the strictest laws concerning the public negation of the holocaust etc. so inform yourself before you state such bullshit or just shut up…

but nevertheless it is a shame that a band like kreator acts in this way…obviously they want to keep their pc-image alive..

By: nameless

nameless — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:22:23 +0000

Of course Germany is such a stupid country, controlled by the jews and their money, that you cannot even think there about the holohoax. You accept this as something that you cannot discuss on and that’s all. If you ask for example, why the hell, in Dachau the stretcher of the crematorium is made of textile (the part were the body shall lie before to be burned), you get banned by the German law! But no matter, I am not writing to discuss on the holohoax.
In 1993 the shit band kreator were playing in Sofia, Bulgaria, and after 3-4 songs, they said “Fuck off nazi men”. It was because there were many nationalists in the public. Then they got many bottles on themselves and one of them got a broken head. So, they got down from the stage. That’s what you have to do with this crank shit band.

By: Andy

Andy — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:34:04 +0000

Come to East coast America and see if you have the same problem! Buffalo NY or the Taake fans therein will claw the eyes out of those who would stand in our way of seeing you guys play.

I agree with what you say about the imagery behind black metal and it is refreshing to hear it said so eloquently. If Kreator, whoever the fuck that is anyway, haven’t seen it yet then they need to because one of the chief ideas behind totalitarianism is censorship of media and arts.

Keep punching out the black metal and please don’t be discouraged, and come to the US for fucks sake!

By: Maegan

Maegan — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:52:58 +0000

Very well said, Hoest.
I also share the belief that using the swastika should be no more different than using the other negative images of murder, violence, or necrophilia so commonplace in black metal music. I personally don’t find it offensive, I find it poignant.

It’s a shame that so many do not grasp your concept, but any bold statement is always subject to diverse interpretation. People will believe what they want to believe no matter how many times you explain it.

The music and expression of Taake is absolutely spectacular. It’s unfortunate that people choose to pay more attention to controversy.

By: nameless desise

nameless desise — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:24:51 +0000

i think most of you talkin´bout jewish and all this swatiska stuff have no balls or even a penis.

you hide after all these big catchwords and you are not using your brains. if you would do, you may recognice that this is all bullshit.

its all about music and not political stuff.
fuck off all you “extreme” “political” wankers.

remember all the meaning of taake?
it was about nature not poltics.

By: Misery Dawn

Misery Dawn — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:30:18 +0000

That realy fucken sucks. However when all else fails. You can always play the States! We are the most fucked up politcally incorrect nation in the world yet we would be glad to have you guys play here! Go Figure!

By: Bifröus

Bifröus — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:00:54 +0000

The swastika has been a sign of Good Fortune for way, way longer than it was ever a sign for Nazism. For this reason it should not be immediately linked to the holocaust. The Swastika was merely adapted to Nazi banners.

As for using the symbol as a display of hate and shame within Germany, it will do swimmingly. You seem to have accomplished your goal with the usage of the symbol. for that, I’ll congratulate you.

By: casta

casta — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:37:40 +0000

damn i can’t believe it! where you people get your information regarding german law? that’s the biggest bullshit i’ve ever heard?
you can’t talk about the holcaust? where? you hear it 3 years in a row in school, if not even more. watch german television, there is always something about this period.
it is banned to ask about facts? where did you get that? have you ever even been to dachau? if you would have any idea. there are great guys there, who would answer you every question.
the only things that are banned in germany are showing symbols of the 3rd reich in an not-documentary way, as part of new propaganda or cultism, and denying the fact that the holocaust happened.
so we don’t deny our history. it is you morons who state that it never happened or make it a part of a jewish conspiracy or something.
so before you open your mouth, first try some research.

By: tobias

tobias — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:36:26 +0000

ja fyfan. jag har postat på Kreator-forumet för att fråga vad i helvete de menar med skiten. Jaja. Taake lever vidare medan Kreator tynar bort år efter år.

By: David

David — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:41:19 +0000

total support Hoest. invoke negativity and pain. the point of Taake and its lyrics.

By: Mordor

Mordor — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:59:00 +0000

It is not unforgivable to display a swastika in Germany, cause its a problem the so called German people have in there narrow minds to feel guilty for something they didnt do!
Iam a German too. But hell belive me! I will never feel guilty for the third Reich, cause it was not me to handle this Movement.

Hoest, you made clear that Taake is not a Nazi band (nearby anybody knows that expect for those dumbshits)
Dont mind about them, those poor individuals see no sense in there own lives. By doing this shit they feel strong.
Fuck them
Fuck Kreator

See you at Wolfszeit in September
Greetz to you Hoest
yours Mordor

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:10:04 +0000

It is extremely disgusting to think that we live in a world of political correctness. “You can’t say this or you can’t say that.” Fuck them!!!! I totally support the art of using symbols to invoke a state of negativity. Isn’t that what Black Metal is about? Negativity? Taake does not need to play a show with PC bands. The fact that these Zionist scum have managed to keep a Norwegian band from playing a Norwegian festival is absurd. I know that Taake will continue to be a fist in the face of God. Hails from the USA!!!!

By: Orm

Orm — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:04:43 +0000

Well spoken, dont see anything wrong with this at all, I personally dont like nazi-ideology, this act just brings more openness on the issue and their abuse of the old symbold of the sun! I hope the concerts go great, looking forward to a great new album from my favorite blackmetal band of all time! !